In this rollicking episode of the North Idaho Experience podcast, host Seth Horst teams up with guests Sam and Beezee for a no-holds-barred chat that’s as fiery as it is fun. They tackle the hot topics of rising riot violence and the creeping spread of Neo-Marxism across the U.S., while wondering aloud if these big-city issues will dare to tread into their beloved North Idaho—a place where traditional values aren’t just bumper sticker deep. From riot gear fashion tips to the proper way to handle a tear gas canister, no stone is left unturned. If you’re into a blend of serious discussion peppered with chuckles, and perhaps want to find out if North Idaho really is the last stronghold against societal chaos, you won’t want to miss this episode. Tune in, have a laugh, and maybe learn why it’s always riot season somewhere.
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In this episode, I sit down with my good friends Sam and Bz, and we discuss the rise of violent riots in the US and the spread of Neo Marxism. Are they related? And is it coming to North Idaho? Let’s find out. North Idaho is a throwback to a better time in American history, the time when values and character still mattered. From homeschool moms, hunters and homesteaders, the business owners, veterans and first responders. We are a unique community held together by a common thread, a love of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These are the stories of those who choose to call North Idaho home. Welcome to the north Idaho experience. Oh no, I want you editing me. I don’t like being edited and censored. I will only edit that first word. This is all going to stay how many? How many, many trees? How many? How many? How many squares do I get? Oh, swear jar right here. You get five? I get five. Yeah. Now these defy are these two big ones. Are these the minor one you get one big one and then for minor? Okay, two big ones for my discount for prepayment. Yeah, can I just put like 100 in there and just go for it. You guys are just a handful. Maybe I shouldn’t have put both in the room together. Quick. It is my idea. You’re right. It’s my I take full responsibility. Welcome to the north Idaho experience. I have two of my good friends here today. Sam the well you’re not in the if you’re not watching. Say Hi, Sam. Hi, Sam. There you go. That’s Sam. We’ve known each other for what since 2010. Yeah, Butler, we worked in a patrol car. Quite a few nights. We went to a lot of riots. We did a lot of cool stuff together. So there was a time when I could say that I knew him better than my wife. That’s no longer the case and not in any weird way. I’m gonna about no better, but definitely spend more time together. Okay, that’s that’s good. Say no, that sounds a little awkward there. I didn’t mean to go there. And then we have my good friend Bz. He owns North Idaho arms over a Post Falls wealth of information on the firearm side. And I kind of I wanted these two guys to come on today because I wanted to talk about some political stuff. And I’m not the best in that world. And I think you guys are both pretty good there. So we’re gonna dive into that. We’re going to talk and we might talk about some riots a little bit might talk about some gun stuff. And I think Sam is going to tell me about a cyber truck. So almost riot season. It is. Do I miss I miss riot? Did Thank you. Did you guys see the celebration in Oakland yesterday? No. So there’s a YouTube video going around of celebration that happened yesterday on the 19th. And there was just a Juneteenth Celebration. And there it sounded like Somalia. Sam and I have been to Oakland dozens of times in the riot capacity. And we have some damn good stories from Oakland. Good Times in Oakland. I know I you know I was talking to a guy who did the introduction me the last podcast quarterly and PD guy that came up here from LAPD. And he’s like how big you know, big reason he moved out what’s the riots and I was like, I always tell people like the riots were the most fun that I had on the job. And maybe that’s because being a trooper is like maybe it’s not as cool as being a cop. I don’t know. But really like the best times as a cop I had deployed to riots. I think most of that has to do with the people you’re with. Okay? Yeah, as a trooper during riot season. Did you ever like like man I wish I could just get back to writing speeding ticket negative never and maybe that’s your fingers never cramped for like you were fatigued from like, oh man I just wish for I’m pretty sure the words I’d rather get back to writing speeding tickets never come out of my mouth until now. So Sam and I we were both granted yours shout out the squat six on Valley division SRT. On one of the most active riot teams with the California Highway Patrol and their quarter. There were eight divisions nine you can think of no that but no. Eight or nine and you guys were dedicated dedicated grenadier. So yes. So up and see us we deploy gas we know very often. And we but what we carried in the most recent riots are 40 millimeter. You know, you call it like a grenade launcher, but we didn’t have around what we call the shot out of the Freedom room, which was like a 40 millimeter grenade launcher hard rubber bullet. Very accurate. We had Aimpoint pros on top like you could hit a thigh at 120 feet all day long. And we also fired aerial flashbangs so they had a 50 meter time fuse. Turret bombs. Yeah, yeah. We found so when we went into the George Floyd riots, we our loadout was like two flashbangs to 20 spawned rounds, and was like a day into it. I gotta tell people is so we’re on the team we would carry we had our minimum loadout of sponge rounds and then like set to aerials. And we would always double up on that being the young Guys, the old guys will look at us and shake their heads and you’re never going to use that. And for the most part that was true, you’re never going to use it. We had one guy on the team one time fire one less lethal beanbag round Shadowrun Oh rod and all the years that would have been doing riots, one guy one round one time, it’s not as common as people think. And the reason so we had to be responsible for every round that left the gun right just like a normal bullet and those even though they’re less lethal, they can still kill someone for sure if you hit him in the eye or something. So and when you’re working a riot line, which we did a lot you know, we deployed down our main priority was to keep people off freeways right but they always go to the freeway so we’re always in the shit. And like when you’re working that line, it’s really hard to get a shot angle, right? Because they’ll always put like the normal chill people up in the front at the riot and all the shit bags will be in the back throwing stuff over so it’s really hard. Imagine that shit bags using civilians as camp cowards. What I was gonna say before Seth interrupted me I was I was laying the groundwork for you so what I’m what I’m what I tell people as you have one guy one time fire one round. And this is in the years that would have been on the team and George Floyd change everything overnight. Because in one night, we went from having one guy on the team ever flying around to we expended all our munitions in one night. That’s great. It was bananas. I I’m gonna take credit as being the first chippy to fire the 40 millimeter round into somebody, I think on at least on Valley division, I’m just gonna say statewide, because no one can prove me wrong. So there you go. I could probably find some from Golden Gate division that can put up a claim against you. Let me know if you want me to do but it’s so it’s funny because we had this plan, right? All the training was we fire the sponge around and they hit hard like they they could drop someone potentially. And then we send out an arrest squad and hook this dude up and take them into jail all the whole deal. And we practice it over and over again. First time I deploy a sponge around is is Dude we’re at we’re in South sac off the freeway, like real quick. And I see this dude. Like they were throwing shit. I see this dude pick up a rock. And like, I got a fence on the left side of me. And then the lines on my right. But there’s this gap and I can I just got a clear shot. I’m like, oh my god, like a clear shot. Boom, pop the dude. And I’m like arrest squad and it’s pure chaos. And nobody heard me and it was like, nope, alright, you ran off and like, okay, clearly all of that training is out the window. And now tactics are going to change. We did a years of training. So we had initially started with very dispersed munitions, things like the sting balls, 37 millimeter shoots out kind of like buckshot, which we have been shot with, let everyone know it’s not going to kill you, we have to get shot with it to qualify. And we went from that kind of rice depression, which we didn’t actually fire and state of California city can’t do that indiscriminate use of force, you can just go and hose down entire crowd with pellets. So that’s when they mandate you need to have a specific target, you need to hit them with a specific goal zone versus a no go zone. And you have to have a articulable reason to be using that force. Essentially, you fire in a sponge round is equivalent of swinging the baton to somebody. So you have to have a reason for having done it. And then of course, you have to make every attempt to identify that person send down an arrest squad because if you’re using force against him, that means they violate the law. You’ve got to arrest him charges and all that. And so we change to training for if you shoot someone you identify that person, we even talked about having paint balls, so we could shoot him paint balls, so we can you know, later on say, Hey, that guy with the orange paint on him. The moment should hit the fan, it became obvious that that was absolutely not possible to do. And it just changed everything overnight. So we quickly realized, okay, the loadout was completely wrong. And we switched and completely flipped it now I was carrying 20 flashbangs. And like four or five sponge rounds, I carried marks and even more sponge rooms yet Sam had more hits than me. Do believe I still hold the division record. I won’t. I won’t say what it is. But I’m pretty sure anyone will ever break it because they unleashed us for like a week. And then it was like okay, yeah, real back angles are back on. We’re not doing that anymore. Well, I mean, that’s how desperately things changed. We went from like I said, this all slip training to overnight, we’re using everything we carry. We went from two flashbangs to a bunch of spoons to just lob and flashbangs all the time and hidden people directly sponge rounds. And we the first night I hit probably least four people the first night with sponge rounds. And I wrote down descriptions of what they look like where it was the time I got officers that were next to me that was witnesses so I can make a report later on. And a couple of days went by and I was still making all these notes. And then our chief came up. It’s like you just told me how many people you’ve hit. And that’s the only thing we want to know about and I just shredded those notes because I don’t have to write a report. For a week there, you couldn’t even find munitions the entire nation. All the munitions were sold out, we had guys back at the academy, their sole job was to try to find munitions somewhere in the United States. And because I mean, shit was hitting the fan, I was hitting the fan pretty hard. We had one engagement. And this is like, you know, out of many. On i Five, we’re in a lower position. So there’s elevated walls above us. They’re throwing rocks and bottles down on our guys. We fired 70 flashbangs in that one engagement on I thought it was bananas. Yeah, it was, it was pretty cool. I mean, they were effective, like the flashbangs were very effective. And in that particular one, I’m retired now I can say this, I don’t care. You know, normally, you fire him up at a 45 degree angle like well over people’s heads, these dudes were on the top of this wall throwing like chunks of concrete easily could kill an officer. I was personally putting those sponge rounds like directly over their head because they’d kind of sit back from the wall, see, to have a clear shot, you couldn’t hit him with a sponge around, but just like directly over their heads, just trying to keep them back long enough to keep the guys safe. It was pretty wild. And we actually learned I mean, this is obviously not the way you’re trained. But we learned that if they had a tree near them, oh, it was great to fire that round into the tree. And then that concussion would go off and then blow debris leaves on them. And they don’t know what’s happening. And they think they just had a near miss and they just survived it and they would disperse and it was a fantastic tool for that. Although I don’t know how long that will continue to be. Yeah, I’m assuming at some point they learned and why is up so good job now the National Arbor Association come after you for worrying journeys. That might be the worst thing that happens. But you’re talking about threatened to the crowd I got pretty good at putting a line you know you’d see people the whole crowd you have that wall the normal protesters but the bad people you want they’re chucking the stuff are behind them. And you’d learn how to track on them. Yeah, and wait till you got to opening and just to see and they’re like I hope that hippie chicken addressed us and stuff for because around just went right by her. That’s what we saw in Bellevue. Right? Like, you know, where we’re where we worked at was real close to the Bellevue Mall. The braver and you know, Louis Vuitton, Gucci all of that. And we watched Bellevue PD and the TAC teams, starting to stack up with the Bearcat and start to get ready. And we would just see stream loads of cars pulling in getting off the freeway. You know, of course, all black hoodies, hoods up masks on sunglasses, gloves, and it’s like, Man, you’re really taking this COVID thing seriously. And they would just go right to the mall, and you had people that were there that were protesting that they were they were trying to show their anger and frustration at the situation that was happening in in America. And then you had the agitators. Yep. And the the unfortunately, I think that people that were there that were trying to protest and and make their feelings heard. were used as pawns by those agitators, because as soon as those those agitators got there, and they started kind of whipping up the crowds, and like at the mall when soon as the first pane of glass fill. It was like ants running into Yeah, you know, and it was just, you know, things were getting looted. And then, you know, you and I’ve talked before about how Bellevue Police Department and obviously I don’t I don’t represent the Bellevue Police Department but how the Bellevue Police Department responded with the chief of police taking a knee and we try it trying to try to appeal trying to appease versus letting his trained professionals go and protect the citizenry and the property of the city of Bellevue. He didn’t want to do that. Right. He was so worried about you know, all the cameras that were out there, and you’re like, I get it, but I don’t get it. No. And then we’ve seen this many times. Like if you hit those agitators hard and fast and with overwhelming violence, like the shit stops, and you shut it down quick. Yep. If you let it build, it’s almost sort of the magic part. If if you punch a dude in the mouth, he’s either gonna come back at ya. And you’re now in a scrap or it’s over. It’s done. Right? And it’s just it’s just everybody living on the computer nowadays, right? Everybody’s tough buying a computer and then, you know, they get out in the real world. And then you let that kind of pervasive, you’re permissive with that you let that happened. And it just gets worse and worse and worse and worse when it comes to the riots too. And we’re not gonna talk about how the media reports on it. But when it comes to riots, people don’t understand that the difference between a protest and a riot you’ll have what 90 95% Most people are there for the protest a lot of people you know, they’re just kind of their, their younger crowd and they want to kind of be there for a good time feel like they’re part of something. But 90 95% Those people are gonna be completely peaceful. They’re never going to do anything. And then you Have a small element that will do something. And there’s people that are actually paid. They’ve gone to school to learn how to do this, and they’re paid to agitate a crowd. And the star people fighting dangerously like a conspiracy theory, Sam? Well, you can think whatever you want, but it is well documented that there are people that are trained to do this, they travel the country, they actually get paid to do it. You can make anywhere from 30 to $100,000, a year being a trained professional agitator, we’d be so good at that got a promise, we have something to lose. Because the moment we get arrested, we get pegged as the right wing radicals, we’re probably one in the downfall of every single color person in America and where white supremacy is what we’re gonna get labeled. And then we lose our houses, our businesses, and everything we’ve ever worked for in some very fun when you put it that way. So just remember, though, that those eight dudes that you’re hanging out with, seven of them are feds, yeah, especially if you’re in Michigan, or Minnesota or wherever, wherever that was, the eight dudes that are conspiring with you to go cause havoc, seven of them. Like from an overarching concept of the riots, and people are like, Why did you like that? And I think, for me, it was one it took me out of the normal job, you know, it’s something different, but to it’s like, who else gets a front row seat to like, standing on the edge of order and looking at pure chaos, like, I’m honored to have been in those positions and watched Oakland burn? And not that that’s a good thing. I’m not saying it’s a good thing. But like, What a unique experience to bear witness to that. But it’s fascinating to be actually there on the front row seat and see it. Because not only you’ll never know what’s like unless you’re there to experience it, but you’re not even going to see a true and accurate accounting of what that’s like, because the media certainly is not going to show it. Right. Don’t what you’re ever going to know is either you’re on one side of that line, trying to hold that thin blue line between anarchy and chaos in order. Or you’re on the other side as part of the protests in the mob and the riot. Yeah. And I should say, 90% of the time we got deployed, it was a it was a true peaceful protest, and we didn’t do anything. We’re just there. Just in case, sometimes that’s because we were there, right? And when the agitator showed up, if we shut them down and made it peaceful, and you know, sun goes down, and eventually people go home, or you’re out there until two three in the morning, and it’s just an entire just mob and you’re trying to keep the city from being burned down. So question so 90% of the time. You guys show up? Nothing bad’s going on. Yep. So in those times, were you as law enforcement? Were you welcomed? Or were people upset that you were there? Depends on the crowd. Okay. Right. If it’s a we had plenty of protests at the capitol that were conservative crowds, like protesting mask mandates, things like that. I want to say plenty of that was the abnormal, we went to a few that were conservative. Those people loved us, right. Yeah. The other side now? Yeah, yeah, we were the symbol of oppression to them. Yeah, we become a focus for them to take out their angst and anger and everything else. But let’s not forget, I mean, how many times were you sitting there man in line somewhere, there wasn’t a mob you just holding an intersection or something? And you’d have a group of people 234 come up behind you. And it’d be polite and to say, Sir, excuse me, we need to walk over there. And you’re not there to stop people from walking down the block or going to the cafe on the corner, you’re letting them through. And we weren’t really sure and we step aside and let them through. And then you’ll see them an hour later on the front of line of that mob, going by chance and F to police and thrown should I do. And then two hours later, they you know, the mobs gone? You’re still holding the same intersection. They’ll combine Excuse me, sir, our cars parked over there. Can we get there? We’re like, sure, yeah. Hope you had a good time. So you can catch it the next right. Yeah, it’s good times. Literally, that happened multiple occasions. Yeah. It’s very, like I’m all for the right for people to go out and protest peacefully. 100%. Like, go do your thing. I mean, you used to go down to the Capitol for things, didn’t you? I have been to peaceful protests. Yes, I have holding your sign and doing whatever. I don’t know what your protest. I don’t know that I’ve ever gone out and done that though. But you know, you go to rallies, and you listen to speakers. And there’s a larger group, I think during the Tea Party era, which, you know, kudos to the left returning the Tea Party into right wing radicals that want to destroy American all white supremacist, but D party was all about big government stay away too much taxes. And so yes, I went to a couple of those. And it was interesting. What I saw was a bunch of normal people who were there to listen to a speaker and all agree on the same idea. They picked up their trash and they didn’t leave a mess. But there was a couple people, there’s white supremacists that were walking through handing out their trash pamphlets. And for the most part, everyone said Get the f out of here, right? We don’t want you coop in our group or organization, our movement, our message. And they were not tolerated. I mean, they weren’t kicked out, but pretty much people just turn their back on them in The only trash you saw at those rallies were the fires from the white supremacist. And there can only be two or three people out of the crowd of 1000 1500. There are white supremacists are handing out their trash and people, they will take the flyers, crumple them up and throw them into the nearest dumpster. So I spoke a couple years back at a demonstration on the Capitol steps, and I was asked to speak, and was in Washington, Washington State and Olympia, and it was on Capitol steps. And they wanted me to kind of speak to the Democrats that we could see, kind of looking out the windows and hiding, right. And they said, you know, we want we want you to speak and and, you know, ask them the same question. I asked you the first time that we talked, right, do you want very calm and cool, or do you want fire and brimstone? Right? And they’re like, no, we want a little fire and brimstone. We want to we want people to know that. Like, we’re a little pissed off about this, right about these these laws that are coming. I said, Cool. I have one caveat. And they’re like WhatsApp, and I said, Well, if I show up, and I see any Confederate flags, or any swastikas, I don’t speak and the guy goes, Okay, like, I think I get it, but, you know, what’s your rationale behind it? And I said, Well, I assume there’s going to be media here. He goes, Oh, yeah, we’re gonna have you know, King five, como que 13 Whoever, right? I go great. The minute the second they see a confederate flag. That’s what this rally becomes. Yep. That’s, and that’s good that you thought of that. And sure enough, so I speak right. And I do my three, four or five minutes, whatever, and I fire and brimstone and I call out, you know, basically call out these Democrats and whatever. And lo and behold, there’s a guy and he’s wearing a kilt, and I have nothing against anybody wears kilts, and he’s got his very free, you know, he’s got he’s got his big confederate flag and, you know, his rhetoric with them. And they go and chat with him and they talk with him and lo and behold, he wasn’t even from Washington State. Yep. So when you start talking about like paid agitators, paid protesters, whatever, he was one of those guys that, you know, did not look like a guy that would carry a confederate flag, you look like you know, rolled out of evergreen college or something. And he was there to push the narrative. You know, I know that there’s a great great many white supremacist out there. Neo Nazis, whatever you want to call them, that show up with their soft swastikas and their rhetoric and their hate. And but there is also a percentage that are not that at all. They are the left that show up to conservative events, flying the flag, trying to make conservatives look bad. This is absolutely happening out there. I’m not a giant conspiracist. I don’t I’m not big on conspiracy theories. But when I looked at what happened on January 6, the insurrection I saw agitators on the front lines that look to me, just like the agitators, I saw a BLM and Antifa rallies. I am not convinced that yes, there was probably 95% of those people were conservatives. But I am not convinced that there wasn’t a small element of agitators from the opposite viewpoint that wanted to make that demonstration look bad. And I think they did a fantastic job of making it look bad. Now that doesn’t change the fact that it takes one or two Antifa guys to grab a pole and stick it through a window and breaking through a door and go into a building. And then 95% The other people follow in there. And you know, bad on you for doing that. That’s trespassing. But I’m not convinced that that wasn’t a planned and executed operation by some factor. Do you think consider inarticulate thing? I said no, no, no, no, that makes sense. Do you think? Like I don’t ever see myself? I mean, that’s a lot of it seems like a lot of effort to me. It’s just it’s a smart play on their part. It’s a good tactic. Do you think conservative people do that? 30 people do that kind of tactic. Like would they show up to a I’m not saying that they wouldn’t there’s there’s absolutely radicals on both sides of both parties. There are absolutely right wing radicals that would do something like that. There were people at that. I don’t want to call it insurrection. It was a protest that turned into a mob. But there was people there absolutely wanted to do they want an overthrow of the government or they wanted to stop the vote. They want to do something like that. Yeah, there was a percentage of that I think was very small. I think the vast majority were just conservatives that showed up. And they followed a sheep because whether you’re left or right, I think people are sheep. What’s the difference between that incident and like the numerous times in say a state capitol that has been taken over by the left? I mean, is it the level of destruction would what was different because I’ve seen that right. They take over a capitol bill. and they do their stuff. So you have to understand that a lot of the movement on all us left for lack of a better term. I don’t like to say Democrats and Republicans, because when it comes to political ideology is different than what’s actually happening out there. I can only speak to for what we saw. When we went to BLM in anti fur riots, what we saw there was a planned and organized start off as a protest, they call up that protest and turn into a riot. And I think what we’re dealing with there are Neo Marxists. Now, what is the Neo Marxist? I say, Wait, by the way, what is a Marxist that you know, you’re gonna have to break it all down for me did I hate to do this? But so Marxism, what is Marxism? Don’t ask me questions like it’s an ideology. It’s this idea is this is this theory that was started by Karl Marx and clocked in by a lot of people. And it is a political theory of how to run the system. And this started in the 1800s, and intellectual salons of Europe. And this whole idea, that capitalist by the way, capitalism is a derogatory term that was coined by Marxists to describe what is the free market. But Marxist, they want to tear down the system that we have, and they wanted to replace it with communism, communism, being the government, of the Marxists. So Marxist is an ideology, communism is the government. And unfortunately, most communist governments turn into a dystopian hellscape. At the very best, you end up with a dictatorship. But in the early form of Marxism, Marx’s rallying cry was workers of the world unite. What we have today are Neo Marxist, this new Marxism, and is no longer workers of the world unite, because it turns out when the workers unite, they start a free market, and they get stuff in turns out people like shit. And in every single communist society, where communism controls the means of production for everyone, it doesn’t turn out well for anybody other than the few elites. And you see that in just about any society, and you show me a communist system that’s actually worked Congress and teaches that everyone is equal. And that’s not the case, you can look around society and see that everyone’s not equal what we want in a free market, what we want in a free society is equal opportunity for everyone. But we don’t want equality. That sounds bad, but you know, lazy people, you know, people that will take from the system never put in. And that happens in communism all the time. Now, I digress. What is Neo Marxism, how’s that and to do with the riots, now, Marxists teach that you cannot change the system from within, you cannot affect change from within, you must tear down and destroy the current system and replace it with your own system. And currently, that’s what Neo Marxism wants to do. And when I say tear down the system, I mean, break the system, so no longer works. And they you start over, you start fresh. And so when you look around the world today, and you see things that don’t make sense to you, if you look at it in lens of Neo Marxism, and starts to make sense to you, and Neo Marxist, they no longer use the slogan of workers of the world unite, what they have done, is they turn it into oppressors and oppressed. And when they divide classes that way, you are either our in two groups, are you the oppressor? Or are you the oppressed, and they don’t care what kind of oppressor you are. And they don’t care what kind of oppressed you are, they will take anyone to put into the oppressed category, and it gives them strength to move their cause forward. So that’s why you see a lot of times two different two different systems, two different ideologies that seem not compatible with each other. Yet they’re together. Why do you see transgender activists protesting for Palestinian rights when if they went to Gaza, they would be killed? Because they’ve been divided into oppressed versus oppressor systems? If you’re part of the oppressed, you are now an ally. But do they realize like, this is what’s always, you know, being first generation, right? Like my mom was born in Germany. My OMA my grandma was a German war bride, right. She came over to the United States after World War Two. So she grew up in Nazi Germany. She was a teenager in Nazi Germany, right? Do these people realize that? With all of their lack of ability, lack of work ethic, lack of drive that when those people, those types of governments take over They are now not needed. Right? Because in the communism in communism, like everybody works, right? Everybody works for the state, right? Everybody works for the common good. So now all of a sudden, there’s no more free shit, right? I mean, there is, but you gotta go work 60 hours this week, you got to go clean up trash, you got to go build whatever, right? Oh, no, I don’t do that. You know. So do they realize that they will be the first ones that are basically deleted. Because the system doesn’t, you know, that’s, that’s what revolutions always do. All revolutions. After the revolution is over, the first persons lined up against a wall and shot are the revolutionaries. Because they’re the radicals, they’re the ones that are a danger to the system. So the powers that control the revolution that drive the narrative, once the revolution is over, the first people they have to get rid of, are those that were the actual people on the streets, the ones that were chanting and thrown the bottles. And that’s why you see in so many communist society, all these purges, that’s what you’re doing. You’re purging revolutionaries. And what you want that are left are the worker bees. And no, I don’t think these people understand that. I think I hate to say this, but I think you’re either the way your brain works is you either see order, and you see logic, and it makes sense to you, and you live your life and you make your decisions based on that. Or you’re someone that makes decisions based on emotion of feeling, that doesn’t make you a bad person, you know, you and I might want to the same thing, but you’re going to look at it from an emotional viewpoint, you’re not gonna look at the logic of what’s gonna take to accomplish that. And the I think that’s one of the problems we have, we have so many young ideological people that are going out there, and they’re protest, and they’re not thinking about the logic behind it. They’re thinking about the emotion behind Well, of course, capitalism is bad. Look at these poor young mothers that are single, and they’re working on McDonald’s, and they don’t have a living wage, and it’s just a giant greedy corporation that’s getting richer and richer and richer. If these assholes on their yachts. Well, yeah, that’s a good sentiment, I don’t think we should have a poor class. But that doesn’t mean that you go and you tear down the people that create those jobs and create those products. They have all these young revolutionaries who talk about tearing down the system. And then we’ll be free to create art and to make beautiful things. But no, none of these little revolutionaries wants to be the factory on the second shift at the farm. No, no one raised their hand and says yes, and his grand new utopia of communism, I want to be labor number 264, on the midnight shift on the factory, because you need a great many people to be workers. And in communism, everyone works, ideally for the production for everyone else. But it never happens that way. George Orwell wrote books like 1984, an animal farm, as a warning of the dystopian future that communism and socialism will bring to us. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, and ideal society would be a blend of both types of Absolutely. Is me it’s like a marriage, right? If you have, say, my marriage, for example, I am probably more emotionally driven. And my wife isn’t more logical. And it’s a great blend, because when we make decisions together, it’s based on so make left Sorry, go on. Maybe she only makes love for procreation and yeah, no moving on. But I think that that blend is important. And that’s kind of where we’ve lost it a little bit is now people have taken sides so strongly, that there’s a refusal to even communicate. Absolutely, because compassion, compassion without order is anarchy. Order without compassion is a dictatorship. You cannot have an extreme on either side, you have to have a blend of both. And you’re absolutely right. In my marriage, I’m the more analytical one. My wife’s the one that does things more than emotions. So I’m more like a woman is what you’re saying? Absolutely. You’ve always been a woman is relationship. A little bit petite. But again, right. So you talk about a blend, right? So using the marriage analogy, I can’t stand it when people say a marriage is 5050 there is no such thing as a 5050 marriage, never. Every situation that comes up, maybe I’m 10% Maybe my wife’s 90% In this situation. In the opposite. Maybe I’m 99% my wife’s 1% In this situation, right? Does it equal out to be close to 5050? Maybe sometimes, I can tell you from my personal experience. Being in western Washington being in retail being a kind of a high net worth earner. I brought in way more money than my wife did. Okay, well, now, we’re over here I’m opening a business, you know, just struggling to get it going. My wife’s the high net worth earner, right? We’ve never once had that conversation of like, oh, I make more you make more this net, we try to keep it as balanced as possible. But at the end of the day, it’s never 5050 There’s always a little give and take. And that’s where I think good communication and having a good, honest, open relationship with your partner is, is needed. So the country needs marriage counseling is what I’m getting out of this country and the country needs a whole lot of counseling. Yeah. But But back to Neo Marxism, you say, Well, where are these Neo Marxist? Who are they, you know, all these young kids and these protests and, you know, occupying campuses, you know, how is this Neo Marxism? There’s, I mean, there is not an overarching, overarching central Neo Marxist leader is the idea, ideology of Marxism. Now, let’s look at BLM, who founded BLM Patrisse Cullors, and her wife, and another person founded BLM and Patrisse Cullors has said repeatedly, we are trained Marxists, she openly says that to anyone who will listen. And the leadership, I mean, Neo Marxism has invaded our schools are because these ideas can only come from intellectuals who don’t ever have to produce something. This can only come from intellectuals who had never had to make a payroll, who never had to actually open the store in the morning, have employees show up produce a product, keep people happy, bring in profit, learn how to use that profit to grow the business, these people have never done anything like that. There are some ideas out there, they’re only stupid enough for an intellectual to have them. And these intellectuals have invaded our school system. They have started all the way from the level of K all the way up to 12th grade, and they’re in our colleges, and they’re in our universities, and they are teaching this crap. And they don’t openly advertise it. And they don’t have to even openly advertise that they are Neo Marxist. And this their belief, all they have to do is put in the idea. And currently the idea is oppresses versus oppressed. And so you have these kids coming out of colleges, universities with his idea of how the world works, and they’ve never had to actually face the real world. But these people, I mean, this has been going on for quite some time. And these people are entering the workforce. And they started to make decisions based on the ideology that capitalism is bad. Socialism, Communism was good. And it’s so it goes beyond just you know, things like BLM or Antifa, dei was dei diversity, equity inclusion. Well, that comes from the idea of critical race theory. What is critical race theory? Well, the term critical is what you need to really focus on. Because that whole critical theory is one of these things also came out from these intellectual salons in Europe in the 1800s. The idea is that you pick something and you critique it, and you find the flaws, and you find the good parts of it. But unfortunately, it has turned into something you just critique everything and you tear it down. Without any thought of why it was that that was instituted. That institution was there in the first place. And we see that happening in America all over the place now. Everything is being critiqued, everything is being attacked, everything’s been torn down. Is America perfect? No. Are institutions perfect? No. is law enforcement law nor to the justice system? Are they perfect? No. But that doesn’t mean you critique and you only find the bad things, you focus on the bad things and you tear it down. Because what happens when you break the very foundations of our society and our democracy, because you were doing that? It took a long time to get here where we are and it took a lot of bloodshed. And no, we’re not a perfect nation. And we should always be striving to be better. But just look around at the world. Look at other failed countries and other systems. And you tell me exactly. Why is it that our system our society in America, so evil, so wrong? And the problem is with this, this whole week is we’ll put a spotlight right, we’ve got a media system that will put a spotlight on our negative right, you don’t see that that negative spotlight being shown in China. No, China controls erratically. Exactly right. So but we have a media system that now has dedicated itself to kind of spotlight the negative right and to to push the narrative. Absolutely. And the terrible thing of our media isn’t when you go out there and blatantly lie which the media is starting to do, but it is how they report and what they report on. So when the media shows up to these protests that you and I have been to, like Steph and I were involved in one to Sacramento, where it was hours long, and we I hate to say but we fought 1000s of people and we kept the city of Sacramento from being burned down. It was an all out battle of J Street. And that’s what everyone calls it. And the next morning, I turned on my TV to see how the media report on it. And what they showed were a couple shopkeepers sweeping up the glass and boarded up their broken window and getting ready to serve croissants and coffee. And they focused on that they didn’t focus on the radicals that were intent on burning that city down that night. And so the general population has no idea what’s actually going on out there in the media. It is how they report and what they choose to report on. That was the sketchiest night of any riot we have ever been to. No it was it was long, hard, sweaty. Gas coin. It was kind of fun. Sounds like a good Friday night. It was it was kicking off. But yeah, you’re right. The chaos was unbelievable. Most people wouldn’t would never imagine like I mean people they were doing sideshows like behind the line that’s where they’re you know, in a car doing donuts, gunfire you know, people, people throwing shit from rooftops, like trying to light businesses on fire looting. And, you know, I would say we were pretty damn effective that night and keeping it from getting worse. So I mean, this this was a culmination of what a week, two weeks? Yeah, I didn’t know it all blends into one. And you know, we’re going to these protests every night. And like, our goal was state property and keep people off the freeways. And in Sacramento sac PD was trying to keep order in the city. But the city council they when sac PD cracking down on anyone, so these people were allowed to build and build and build. And then one night, we got a call of mutual aid from Sac PD requesting our help. And so we were all staged, you know, wherever our squads were. And we all came and we showed up and we parked along the street and we had to take over an entire city block of street, put guards on either end. So when we left our cars, we wouldn’t come back, find them burn down, marched around the corner and found sac PD in the intersection. Bolden, you know, Foursquare of all sides, in kind of an Alamo position being surrounded by 1000s of people. And I remember when we marched up and we got inside their perimeter, looking at a sac PD guys and their eyes were wide open. And you can tell they’re on the verge of just losing it because they had been getting beat all week and all day, and all night. And they were at their breaking point. And we were able to come in there, take their frontline for them, give them time to pull their guys off the line Rearm, people have been hurt, take care of them, maybe get a drink water, just calm down for a minute while we held the line. And then we started moving and we became the focus of 1000s of people’s aggression on us. And, you know, South will tell you, we’ll do this order of March where sac PD will give a dispersal order it’d be ignored that fire off gas that people would take pick up the gas try to throw back at us and then we would open up with a less lethal and then drive people down the block and they’ll disperse and then we’d have to rearm take up an Alamo position again and then next intersection all four sides and do it over and we did this for a mile or two down down Main Street Sacramento. And if we hadn’t been there to take out that aggression because every single intersection once we clear the street and move down, the people flood onto the side streets and then move forward into try to reap, reposition and regroup and the next intersection. But every time that happened, a few people trickle away and think and I want any of this Yeah. And so what you’re ended up with at the very end was, you know, 100 or so of the most aggressive people. How, okay, so you guys, you guys keep saying and you guys have said a couple times now using less less lethal and using gas using sprays that sort of thing. Okay, so on the Elio side on the police side, it’s all less lethal, right there’s no hot ammunition Correct? I mean we have it but we’re not know every single every single person well, armed with your typical duty typical duty belt right but you aren’t you are not approved for to go hot right to go live. You know, if I were presented with a deadly force situation, you know, obviously you’re always authorized to defend yourself or your partner. Correct. My question though, is is in these protests and again, stuff that I’ve seen on TV, I see, you know, water bottles getting thrown. I see. Rocks, bricks. I’ve seen Molotov cocktails. I’ve seen fireworks, right. How far how close are we from this turning into an actual bang? Bang shoot ’em up. One bad one cop who do who loses his shit. Yeah, really, honestly. One bad guy who just lights off and and, and there was gunfire, but it’s not direct gunfire and yeah, it’s back. You don’t even know where it’s coming from or going. You’re not hearing rounds fly over your head now. So someone’s pop offer, you know, their Glock up in the air just to, you know, maybe they’re just letting off some steam. Maybe they’re trying to provoke a response. Maybe they’re just trying to look cool. But everything we did, it wasn’t directed at us we have trained for it. You know, we have absolutely trained for scenarios where we’re dealing with your typical mob and a riot. And then suddenly someone started shooting and it goes to a deadly force situation. Thankfully, we’ve never actually had to do that on the line that would get real ugly. We always had you know, each squad would have somebody with an AR, so we had the potential to reach out on DMR guy. But look looking at like 2012 Occupy Wall Street, which was the start of all this right. 2016 Which I don’t know what they call the 2016. Right. I can’t remember the name that was a was up Ferguson. Yeah, yeah, Ferguson, right. And then 2020 You’ve got BLM. Right? It’s weird. It’s 2020 is what changed. 2020 is when George Floyd kicked off. Now, BLM was founded in 20. Oh, I won’t say 2013. And they slowly grew, and they got more and more active. And then it was 2021 blm really exploded. Yeah, I think they raised $90 million in donations, they got Coca Cola, and they got it from Pepsi, and they got it from Pizza Hut because these companies are so scared of not looking like they’re on the right side of history that they’ll donate it and what happened to all that money? What it produced colors do with our money about a bunch of houses, you went out and bought four houses and spent a couple million dollars no one knows we’re, I mean, they’ve raised multi millions every single year 2020 alone, like you said it was$90 million. Where did that money go to? There is no accounting to where that money went to. My fear though, is okay, so we had 2012 election year 2016 election year 2020 election year 2024, which is lining up to be probably one of the most contentious elections that we’ve ever seen in the history of the United States. And then now it just seems like every single day that the give a fuck is going away. Yeah, excuse my language. No, it’s fine. Right? It just seems like the other side is getting more aggressive. Right? Right. You talked about the sideshows right? I think that applies to both sides. I think both sides are gonna more aggressive. The radicals on both ends. Now I can sit here and say that I think one side is getting more radical than the other but I think that’s I would obviously sit down and say No, the other sides get more radical but I think both are getting more out. Yeah. But you talk about like the sideshows right I remember, you know, seeing videos sideshows. And in the Bay Area, and a guy would, you know, roll his TransAm out in the parking lot and there’d be 3040 people there. Well, that’s happening everywhere in every city around America. Right now. It’s not the guy who bought the TransAm to do sideshows. It’s the guys that went and stole Hellcats and stole Kias install whatever to go do that and just willfully destroy property right. And it’s just it seems like it’s just getting worse and worse and worse and worse. There’s definitely an erosion of any kind of respect towards the law and order side of it. And I think that’s where Yeah, we have the potential to something kickoff now and some of the issue our our SRT team, we were very active our guys had we had guys that were in now don’t want they weren’t. We had guys in LA or the riot. Thank you. Yep, that’s the oh my gosh, Rodney King. Thank you. So I mean, we had guys with 20 plus years experience, doing more doing this stuff on the team. But there are departments out there that never do it. And that’s the risk of brand new officer that’s never been in that situation. And now he’s scared and someone throws a rock. If someone throws a rock on me at the street, and I’m by myself as a cop, like that’s, that’s the force right? Someone comes out with a brick or a rock you with that person on the street deadly force. Now the rules change when you’re in full riot gear and you have a helmet and you’ve got padding. Now someone throws a rock at me. I’m not I’m not necessarily deadly force, even though that can creep great bodily harm on me and I’ve been hit with rocks and it hurts. We’re not there. That untrained guy brand new guy scared he might fire back with lethal and now now you’re in a situation that’s going to escalate fast or on the flip side, you know guys that are doing their jobs and they’re they’re deploying less lethal tools. And the guy on the other side is like you know what? Yeah, I’m gonna shoot back I’m gonna shoot back right and all of a sudden, you know, he’s dumping he’s dumping rounds into the line right and so now it becomes this actual hot thing this actual this actual shooting thing? Yeah, I’m surprised that actually hasn’t happened here. I had legit fear during those those riots of exactly that someone behind the line with you know, a long gun just dumping into the line of officers to indiscriminate not dumping but an officer get at the point where he feels that deadly force is needed. I on the other side, let’s be honest, oh, yeah, let’s be honest, deadly force can be used and justified in virtually every single one of these riots that we’ve been to people to understand the routes drain that police officers have on those lines. But yeah, my fear is that one these days, whichever side fires first, it could be an officer that is pushed to the point he’s scared, or he legitimately sees a threat and shoots. And then you know, there’s guns on the other side, especially when you’re in neighborhoods with you know, there’s a lot of criminal activity, and suddenly, they’re shooting at the cops. Now all the shot, cops are shooting back, I have some of the most fearful times I’ve had on the job, we’re at riots, where like, you start to recognize our we’ve got 100 Guys, and there’s 1000s of them, if they and the only thing keeping us safe is the fact that maybe maybe the badge a little bit, but but the fact that we’re acting as a cohesive unit, and we’re trained to do it, if they became more of a cohesive unit and directed that in a dangerous way towards us, that’s where I mean, that’s fearful. I mean, more times today, but it’s literally the thin blue line, a very thin line between anarchy, chaos in actual civilized society. And when people cross that line and break taboos, that’s when things fall apart. And they fall apart fast. We we rolled up in Oakland one time this was prior to the George Floyd but it was there was maybe 100 of us rolled in, and there were 5000 people on the freeway. And, you know, they were trashed and shit. And they were smashing cars. And it’s like, we came in and we were able to push them off. But like those numbers are on when that when that’s the only reason why is because one you’d like. So we talked about that 90% There would never do it on their own. But you take that 90% And you agitate them, you know half of them will start doing shit and the other half still won’t do stuff. But it’s the fact that most of those people are not the type of people that do this. The only reason why you can go out there with I think a hunter is a lot more than a lot of times would have but yeah, that’s the reason why you can go out there with 25 Cops, and you can control a mob of 1000 people. So what about though, you know, fast forward now, what we see happening on the southern border, and you see, you know, people that are coming to United States, obviously because they want to better their lives. But now there’s individuals coming from countries that have nefarious intent. Just start talking about sir Adams gets a hold of super Bad’s known Yeah, Superbad. She’s awesome. Yeah, she is awesome. I think that’s a whole nother podcast for that interview, probably because we’re talking about the Sean Ryan Show, by the way that she was on there and CIA targeter some scary info at one and 107 or so. So yes, there there are. I mean, I don’t think it’s disputed, maybe some people on the left would dispute it, but that there are now 1000s and 1000s of people that potentially have bad intent in this country. And yeah, they could show up to that situation. And it wouldn’t take much to, to throw a match in there. And now you’ve created a firestorm. And that could just be walking up the line with a pistol or a suicide vest, or whatever. And being being the catalyst. Our nation has enemies out there that absolutely want to see us fall. And Al Qaeda is more strong and more able now than they were pre 911. And don’t think that our enemies, whether it be al Qaeda, or whether it be China or North Korea, don’t think that our enemies won’t use our own internal strife and politics against us. That’s a smart play. I think our enemies have learned that to use our internal weakness in our internal inability to govern and try to just police our populace against us. Right, they know that they know that we have gotten very, very soft on crime. Right, we’ve become literally anti cop and pro criminal. Yep. And as as, you know, as a country as a whole right now. There’s definitely pockets North Tytos one of those pockets that is very, very pro police and very, very anti crime. But, you know, I’m going to Seattle this weekend, trust me. They’re not pro police. They’re not they’re not anti crime over there. Something I want to start interact with is something I’ve warned people about being in Idaho, North Idaho, people come here and they leave whatever hellscape they came from, and they come here and they see freedom and they see order and they see law and they breathe a sigh of relief and like I finally made it. Yeah, you got to watch out because there are plenty of people here on the other side and they show up and the first thing they say is this is a hellhole North Idaho we need to start changing it into our viewpoints. And those people they are invading politics. They’re the ones to show city council meetings. They’re the ones to start running for office, they run for school boards. And I don’t care how conservative North Idaho is take a look at school system. The public school system in North Idaho is as liberal as it is in blue states. And that goes back to the whole idea of Neo Marxism, that has entered North Idaho schools just like it is anywhere else. I don’t think it’s full on though it’s not full on. It’s definitely on essentials there. But what’s happened beyond the potential it is actually there. Take a look at some of the school board races that are going on like the one that went on up at a priest River. This absolutely hear, look at the fight we’re having with libraries. Why do you think we’re having so many fights with the libraries and books in the libraries? What do you think happened with North Idaho college? What started with that entire clusterfuck? Here’s my effort. What what started that was, it was essentially Neo Marxism, oppressor and oppressed. I forget exactly what it was on North Idaho college. But it had to do with the students standing up and wanting a pledge of support from the college and from the Faculty of staff for you know, one of their causes when they were oppressed versus oppressor causes. And when that they didn’t get that that’s what started this entire fight with North Idaho college. So it is absolutely here. It’s not just a potential it is here. We’re lucky because we have a lot of conservatives in the community, people whose kids go to schools who are willing to stand up against it. But it is absolutely here. But we do. But and you and I’ve talked about this a lot. And I see this every single day in the store, right? I hear every day. It’ll never happen here. This is Idaho. It’ll never happen here. This is North Idaho. And I look at guys, and I go respectfully, sir. Bullshit. Yeah, it will happen here. Now, we don’t want it to happen here. But it will happen here. And here’s why it will happen here. Voter turnout dismal, right? What was it 13 and a half 14%. In this primary route, I show up. We’re such a conservative area quickly, right. But when you start looking at who does show up, right, number one, that people that show up to vote are people who have been here less than more or less than 10 years, they show up in force, almost three to one to go to every election, whether it be a primary or general, that people have been here their whole lives like oh, no, it’s Idaho, it’s never going to change. It is going to change, right? And so if you want to keep those strong values, you want to keep Idaho conservative. You might have to take a morning off on election day. Right? You might have to call in and say, Hey, boss, I’m gonna come in two hours late. So I can go vote, you might have to do a little bit of research, that the research is part of it too. Because how many people say okay, I’m going to show up, and I’m going to vote for local elections, and they show up and they look at the ballot and they see names. And they have no idea who those people are. Or they might recognize a Nia and just see the are Yeah, and they want to vote down the ticket. I’ve been guilty of that, you know, I have. And we saw that with this just this last, this last primary, right, you had the Kooky county Republicans and you have the North Idaho Republicans and you start looking at who’s who and who’s what. And they’re not all conservatives, they’re not or you get a conservative, that is far more right wing than I want to be. I might align with a lot of their values and agree with them more than I want with a far left, but they’re too far right wing for me, and they’re just going to add fuel to the fire for people who want to defeat them. And then we start fighting internally between a conservative conservative and an ultra conservative, conservative, fractured conservatives. We’ve talked about that before fractured conservatism that will be the downfall of the Conservative Party’s around the United States, in every corner of the country is fractured conservatism, unpopular opinion by thing, both parties are on the verge of a breaking point. I think you have Democrats and left ideology, that is they’re allowing the far left and the far extreme to co op them. And far too long, people will say, you know, I don’t want to be racist. And so you sit back and you shut up and you allow people to come out with the AI and critical race theory and you know, argue against it, and that’s what’s going to break the Democratic Party. But the Republican Party is facing the same perils within the Republican Party does not have a unified message. Look up people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, I don’t think she understands what a conservative can be. But she is the loudest one the up there. And she becomes the voice of conservatism and on the meter and on the media. Who are they going to show they’re going to show the most extreme and we’re allowing her voice to become what the party is. And, I mean, they the Republican Party, does not have a unified I’d message and cannot agree. And we are fighting ourselves from within. The most divisive person to ever come into Republican politics is Donald Trump. Oh shit, I said the term Trump word that’s gonna cost you a double in the in the bucket. How do we fix it? Oh, good lord, I don’t know how we come on. Give me some answers. I like I hate to be the person that complain and then like, not have actionable steps to take to do something about it. I’m very committed to trying to get more people to vote. I don’t have a big voice in the area. But I have somewhat of a voice. It’s like, man, maybe we can. Because there are definitely people I talk to in my circle. They’re like, Oh, yeah, I was gonna. So if you want us gonna do it, but I didn’t if you want to see something crazy. Mike McHale ski the owner of Sons of Liberty gun works. He just did a tweet, an ex post couple days ago. And he started talking about how many hunters registered hunters in every state did not vote in the last election. And some of these states was crazy, like, and I’m probably gonna get this wrong. So go to x, you can fact check me. But like Ohio, it was like 500,500 did not vote did not vote. Idaho, I saw that. One 108,000 registered hunters did not vote. That’s like 5% of our population. I don’t like the idea that someone can go and look and see whether registered under voted or not. I don’t like the idea that the government can track whether or not I voted or not, and whether or not I have a hunting license. It’s interesting. What you’re saying, show you right, it does show you that it’s like, you know, we we as like gun owners, right. And I’ll reel it back to like, what I’m what I’m good at, right. As a gun owner. We always say like, you know, we’re never going to get invaded by the Russians. There’s too many. You know, there’s too many Americans with guns. Right? There’s there’s a gun behind every blade of grass. Right. And I agree with that. And I’m proud of that, right. But we’re fractured gun owners, because you have gun owners that are some peeps, some Governor gun owners are pro gun and some aren’t. There’s a lot of gun owners that are not actually pro gun. And they don’t they don’t realize that. Like all civil rights kind of starts from gun ownership, right? Is that because they might believe you can own this gun? Or not? We saw that was another one. We saw this in wash. We saw this in Washington where we would see guys that would say like, well, as long as you don’t come after grandpappy 3030. As long as they don’t come after my bolt gun, as long as they don’t come after my elk gun. Why do you need that scary black gun? Why do you need to have 30 rounds routed out and I thought about it all and now realize that the left has taken away. Threaded barrels on certain guns happened to be grandpappy 3030, they’ve taken away this they’ve taken away that they don’t care. The left doesn’t care. The anti gun crowd does not care what the gun is, it’s just a gun, they want to get rid of it. They want to get rid of certain guns faster and certain guns sooner. But the the goal is total disarmament. So, you know, at some point, you got to draw a line and say, Listen, you know, I believe in this and I stand for it. And what is frightening is I’ve always said you know, come from California and some of the crazy anti gun laws. You know, we cannot ban guns is a constitutional right Second Amendment. But we sure sure can make a really hard for someone to get a gun, we can make it really hard to get the ammo for the gun, the type of gun micro stamping. And I’ve often said if you really want to get rid of all these guns, change the constitution. I don’t want that to happen. But all these gun people out there anti gun people, you’re fighting an uphill battle because as long as the Second Amendment is there, we will have guns. But you start hearing politicians now. And Gavin Newsom is one of them saying we need to have a referendum and we need to change the verbiage of the Second Amendment. And that is getting more and more popular support except for the guys that protect me and my family. Right is that when he says to because you know, he doesn’t say that outright, but that’s exactly what is that. That’s the double standard. Yeah, rules for you, but not for me. Well, I mean, I came from I came from Western Washington, the home of Bill Gates, right. And if you happen to have a boat and you want to take your boat and cruise Lake Washington, you can pull up in front of Bill Gates his house and within about 15 seconds of you pulling up in front of Bill Gates his house, his security team comes out and makes their presence known. Now my buddy who’s okay because when you pull up to my property about 15 seconds till I make my presence and my my buddy that lives on the other end of the lake. If he were to go out on his dock and flag people off and wave people off and tell him to get the hell out of there. Why is it okay for Bill Gates or Bezos or bla bla bla or whoever, right? Because they got money? Because they donated to the sheriff’s reelection campaign way more than you? Well, it’s brought a lot of money coming into North Idaho right now for the Sheriff’s campaign, isn’t there? Yeah, that’s big one right now, depending what county you’re talking about. There’s some internal politics and some counties around you when it comes to the sheriff are quite interesting and amusing. Yeah, I’ve been doing. And again, like we’ve talked about, I have not chose to have not chose a horse in the race yet. Because I truly believe that I’m new to the area, right. And so I want to learn who everybody is before I cast my one vote. Man, there’s some shenanigans going on. Yeah. And I’ve talked to both on this both guys running for Kooten County Sheriff on this podcast. So if you’re curious about that, you can dig up those old episodes and hear what they have to say in long format, which is kind of helpful. Lost your dream thought. I was gonna say like, I’m kind of just probably worldwide, who I’m thinking who’s can’t come in. But yeah, squirrel. I think one of the problems you’re having is you have an old school way of doing things in North Idaho. And you have a lot of those old school people that are entrenched in their ideas and how they think they should be done, who don’t understand that Idaho is changing, and it is growing. And you will have to change how you do things. If you want to be successful in North Idaho. Well, a lot of them. And you know, I’m not trying to talk smack, but that’s all they do is they just get mad about it, and then blame it on Californians. And it’s like, that’s not constructive. You know, and I asked me, I get comments all the time on YouTube, like, nasty comments about bringing Californians here or whatever. It’s entirely my fault, by the way. And it’s like, you know, you don’t quite understand the caliber of people, at least that we deal with in our real estate business. They’re like us, and they’re coming up here with an intent to raise their families in a good place, and they don’t want it to change. And now you’ve got these old school people that are just yelling and hollering and I asked them like, like, did you get on bow? Like, are you doing step? or what have you done to change your community and make it better, right, because just sitting around complaining is not doing anything. If it wasn’t for the growth here, and the money that comes in Idaho would be a backwater. And it was a backwater for decades. That’s why people came to Idaho. They wanted to disappear in the woods where it was almost like a third world country. I’m not saying Idaho is a third world country calm down. But Idaho was very backwoods compared to a lot of the other places in this country. And that’s why people came here. And that’s changed. I’m sorry, but that’s the truth. And the fact of the matter, you cannot stop that just shoot me a private message. I’ll give you Sam’s address. Well, it’s great to go back with no, you need to go to North Main. What’s crazy is, you know, with your business, you know, it’s it’s crazy how much your business and my business are starting to intertwine. And it’s it’s natural, right? It’s, you know, it’s not a paid partnership. But it’s, you know, Seth and I talk, you know, but it’s not, it’s nothing crazy, but it is the fact that conservatives want to move to North Idaho, right. And they’re coming from these places that maybe they don’t feel appreciated, maybe maybe the law of works against them and their beliefs. And so they reach out to Seth and reach out to your group and they find a beautiful house and they buy a house and it’s awesome. And then they all come into North Idaho arms, and they’re like, Dude, I saw you on Washington gun law, I saw you on residing in North Idaho, North Idaho experience right and says my real attorney helped me move and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and like, what kind of gun can I buy? And it’s like, man, a psycho, you can get pretty much anything you want. But it’s crazy, because I never thought moving here and being open to the public. Now, you know, five months, I never thought that I would be like this political lightning rod or I’d be like this super, super pro to a like, I’m unapologetically Pro to a right. But I never thought that I would be the guy that literally hundreds of people a week walk into the store and go, I saw you on YouTube. I saw you on Fox News. I saw you on this. And I just wanted to come in like literally, I just wanted to drive three hours to come spend$100 Just to support you. I never thought that would happen. It’s mostly me alone or dollars. And I’ll take Yeah, I mean, and trust me, we get people all the time that are like, hey, what what can we do to help you? What can we do to support you? And it’s super, super humbling. And it’s, it’s, it’s amazing, but it kind of shows that it’s a testament to what’s going on in America, right? Like, why are all these people wanting to leave these areas and come here? Yeah. And some of them I mean, the sacrifice that these people and myself included are willing to endure to get their families to open least like North Idaho is unbelievable. You know, we get lots of laterals, to the police department up here. These guys are coming from jobs where they’re making 150 200,000 a year, they come up here and like, maybe 70. I don’t know what they make up here right now, but it’s a huge pay cut, and they’re willing to do it. I’m working with a guy right now who works for a water district in on the west side. And, you know, with the benefits and this and that he’s probably he’s probably 105 110 a year. And, you know, I think CDA water district pays like 18 bucks an hour. And he’s like, trying to figure out how do I do this? Because I want to move over here and I don’t want I don’t want what’s home? I don’t want what’s back at home. I want what’s here, right? So how do I make this work? That amount of sacrifice is mind boggling. Yeah, that’s that people, especially me, right? Like I opened a business at 48. I should have done this. 20 years ago, I opened a gun store at 48 years old, right? I’m gambling, everything that I have and everything that my family has for hoping that in 20 years, maybe I can retire. Right? I should have this 20 years ago. Yeah. But I’m willing to make that gamble. Because again, like we said, a million times in a million different places. My marriage is healthier. My mental health is better. My daughter’s mental health is better. Her education is better. It’s just where we needed to be. Might not be for everybody, but it’s where we needed to be. Yeah. There’s lots of people out there with that same feeling. So okay, we have a rough idea of how to keep North Idaho the same as it is. Like, what happens if, if these Neo Marxists keep coming in? And like what happens if North Idaho Falls then what? Well, I mean, North Idaho isn’t the linchpin holding the country together might be. It’s not. We do need to be proactive. And that’s something that we’re not good at. Liberals and Democrats, I hate to label them, but they like to be proactive. They like to go out there. They like to get involved. They like to be part of community. We’re conservative, and Republicans tend to be like a listen, I’m gonna live my life. You live your life. As long as you don’t mess with me. I’m gonna mess with you. And so we don’t get involved. And he asked what she can do to change it. Other than sit here on a podcast and bitch, and you can get involved was last time you went to your city council meeting. Good point. Do you know who your county commissioners are? Only one. Do you know how many county commissioners rhetorically asked his questions. But how many people have no idea you and how their local government works much less who is on it, what their ideas are, what their viewpoints are, you want to get involved, start going to your city council meetings, learn who the players are. And most of the time you don’t you need to go or show up. You can watch and most of the time they stream this stuff. And you can watch it from home. That’s the very first thing I need you need to do. When you ask what can you do is become aware of what your community is like and who’s in your community. I just met with a lady this morning, what’s up, troop shout out. And she is very new to the area. And she was already saying I’m down at the city council meetings and I’m paying attention. I also sent her to your gun shop. By the way, you’ll see her there soon. And I was like, wow, like that was inspiring me. I’ve never been to a city council meeting here. Here’s a question though. How many conservators have you met in Idaho? This rhetorical? Yeah, a lot. A lot. How many have you met like her that say, and they do that? She’s the only one. There you go. That’s the problem. Yeah. Well, you introduce me to Representative just gonna ask about Jordan Jordan. Right. So you introduced me to him? Little little text message back and forth. So we met for coffee went to life. Awesome, right? What’s the life public house had coffee, sat and talked for about an hour. And then the next morning? I was on the phone with his legal assistant. Yes, in Boise. And we were trying to define and codify and figure out what we need to do for next legislative session. Right? We were talking about, you know, trying to future proof Idaho. So the the disease and the problem that happened in Washington, especially with like the Consumer Protection Act laws, would not be able to take hold in Idaho. And we got some answers. I got some answers. So I got a gameplan of which way we need to go. But then that now has opened up where I’ve gotten guys from the Benoit County Republican Party to come in. They’re like, hey, we want you to come and chat and talk because we want to forward some legislation next year to help solidify and help protect Idaho moving forward. We want to know what happened in Washington. And so again, like you said, get involved, get started, you know, be active, be aware, like all of that matters, right? And not everybody’s going to do maybe what I I do not every is going to do what you do not every is going to do what you do, right. But it starts with just, I personally believe having conversations with people and not getting your panties in a twist, when you talked with somebody that maybe doesn’t agree with you, you and I might not have the same. We might not believe the same thing on everything, right? But you’re not a bad person. And we shouldn’t know. And again, again, I’m not going to have, I’m not going to get my panties in a bunch because I believe this or you believe that or whatever, right? You’re a God fearing Americans sitting here, expressing your opinion, your opinions valid, I should listen to it, just as you should listen to mine. You don’t have to agree with mine. I don’t have to agree with yours. But that’s step one is just like actually communicating and talking with people. And maybe when I go home tonight, and I replay this in my head a little bit, I pick up one or two things that you said, and I go man, I need to, I need to smarten up on a couple things, right? And you get a little bit smarter and you get a little bit better. That’s I think, where everything starts, then getting out and voting and getting to your polling places and actually making your voices heard. I am thrilled that you were able to connect with Jordan Redman. And like how cool is that to have, you know, a state legislator that in town that’s very accessible? Yeah, you know, I met him through Dave Miller at life. And I texted him, he’s like, let’s get coffee, and sit down with a state legislator. Yeah, just cool, normal guy. You know, he’s always down to listen to the people in his jurisdiction. And it’s like, that’s cool. And I’m sure that that guy has so many constituents that are coming with him coming to him with so many different things. So for him to sit down with me for an hour, and then get on a phone call for 90 minutes. And then, you know, start, I think they call it purple slipping me or something into this email chain, with these lawyers in Boise. And it’s like, Dude, this is pretty cool. Yeah, like, this is pretty cool. Like, this is like, Okay, this is how things work. Now you’re potentially affecting actual church, right? Yeah. Right. Because the one thing that like when you and I first talked, the very first podcast we ever did, is we talked about, you know, my vision and my goal of wanting to try to safeguard Idaho, against some of these laws, the Consumer Protection Act laws that were used against the Second Amendment used against the citizenry in Washington, and you’re like, Please promise me that you’re going to actually do this, please promise me this. Don’t just be another guy that’s going to be here bullshitting. And saying you’re going to do whatever and pimping your store out, right. And so no, we’re actually trying to do this, right. We want to make sure that Idaho is safeguarded, not just tomorrow, but 10 years from now, 20 years from now. So, yeah, and you know, find something that you can do, right? I don’t have a lot of talents in life, but I’m pretty damn good at connecting. Thank you. I’m pretty damn good at connecting people. So like if I if that’s my contribution to put you in touch with the right person. Boom, there you go. Now, now I can feel like I’m effecting change, too, and not just crying about it. Good on you. Thanks, buddy. That’s the nicest thing you ever said to me now. So a couple of nice things. I will tell you that took care of you when you’re really really sick. happened. Gentlemen, we’re at an hour and 15 minutes, and he has got time crunches. Well, one of us does go up time crunches to thing for both. I am well past my mid afternoon now. Why sure enough, don’t do like physical crunches. So there has to be a time crunch. So I actually like thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. You guys are both super smart. And I thought putting you in a room together would be a beautiful synergy. And I was not wrong. So thank you. And thanks, Sam, we kind of have this back and have this conversation again about other things because I think that’s like you said that’s where it starts is having these conversations, but then also finding actionable things that we can do like talking to a state legislator and moving the needle in the right direction a little bit. So I would love at some point, I would love to have a fervent anti gun believer sitting right here to to educate me on why disarming the American populace should happen. Like I want that to happen, right? I want that person to sit here. Because I want them to be able to try to get three sentences out without saying, I think I feel and getting all in their feelings and start screaming. Yeah. What I love to do is so hard to do these days, I love to have conversations with people who believe differently than me. And when you can have conversations with people who believe differently than you without yelling each other and talking past each other, you can learn about why they believe what they believe. I think as Americans, we have far more in common than we have differences. But if we could sit down and we can talk and get an understanding of why you believe what you believe, and why I believe what we believe. And is there any way pay for those beliefs to join up together and we could find a way to accomplish it. Because right now, when we’re fighting with each other, and we’re disagreeing, we’re not accomplishing anything. Or we’re accomplishing the agenda of some foreign entity. No, we’re definitely making someone who wants to sow division with us. We’re making them happy. And I guarantee you, there’s a lot of people out there that are more than happy to see America tearing itself apart. Yeah. So if anyone’s out there and you know, somebody that’s willing to come in North Idaho, and have that conversation in a cordial manner, I’ll sit in the middle. That way, there won’t be any fists flying. Not from your side. I think you’re pretty chill, dude. But we would love to have that conversation. I’m totally open to that. I think that’d be great. You just can’t. Your argument can’t start with, I think, for I feel, and you can’t just immediately say you hate Trump. Exactly. Right, like come with actual facts. Because here’s the thing if I, if I talk with somebody, right? If I go in with a an anti gunner, I will use the FBI crime stats against you. 100%. So brush up on him. Love it, brush up on it. Well watch out, because currently there is a movement in the Department of Justice, where they are manipulating those very same statistics. They are why the crime is down, which it is not. Yeah, let’s, let’s leave that as a teaser for the next one. You guys both need to brush up. We’re gonna talk about that. All right. Last thing I want to say to your viewers all for them is everyone out there listening to this? Right now, when you’re done? Take a moment, Google who is on your city council or your county commissioners, just do that, find out who they are. If nothing more than that, send them an email. Just send an A sending an email to your local representation. And just say, Hi, my name is and I live here. I wanted to introduce myself. See if they send you an email back even if it’s a canned response. They’re very you will learn who’s going to give you a canned response because they’re not listening to you. And who’s going to actually come back and you’re gonna get a live person and then they might actually care about Yeah. Oh, there you go. There’s some actionable steps you can take. Thank you, gentlemen. Sam, always pleasure VZ. Always a pleasure. Go check out Northside alarms and Post Falls. Man’s got the knowledge for you. Appreciate it guys, and we will catch you next time. This podcast is brought to you by your North Idaho agent. We are a full service Real Estate Team serving all of North Idaho. Our team is comprised of former first responders and veterans and we have years of experience in all aspects of real estate purchase and sales embarr land to new builds condos, commercial and resell. We have your back. To ensure a safe, smooth and profitable transaction, be sure to subscribe to our real estate YouTube channel called the North Idaho experience and check out our website at your North Idaho agent.com. It’s an excellent resource to learn more about North Idaho. 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