Nancy Blanchard

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We all know someone affected by cancer, whether it’s a family member, coworker, or friend. Seth and Kristen Horst sit down with Nancy Blanchard to discuss her recent diagnosis of cancer and the emotional toll it’s taken on her and her family. Nancy takes us through the various treatment options she’s exploring to battle the tumor inside her, and she discusses her multidimensional approach—including holistic, spiritual, and Western medicine—to attack her cancer from all angles. Join us for an informative and raw discussion about one of the most prominent diseases affecting humans right now.

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Nancy. In this episode, we talked to our friend Nancy Blanchard about her recent cancer diagnosis and some of the non traditional treatments that she’s using to combat that nasty disease that so liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These are the stories of those who choose to call North Idaho home. Welcome to the north Idaho experience. Well, welcome to the north Idaho experience. We have I don’t know, autoimmune, autoimmune. She’s done some of the same treatments that Nancy’s done. So we’re gonna, I thought it would be a good way to kind of talk about her experience in that as well. So diving right? And first of all, relying on Western medicine. In fact, you’re heavily the other way, I would say, right, which I think is important. I don’t trust Big Pharma. I think most people don’t, and so I think this is I’m glad to be here, yeah. So give us the background, like, when, when did you discover this? And how long have you been dealing with this? Okay, so I got the diagnosis on May 1, as a result of a colonoscopy. And so really, the stuff leading up to it, not knowing that that my this was in my body. I’ve just been dealing with, uh, And Did, did you assume it was like a gluten intolerance or something? Have you gone down that path? I’m sure yes. In 2007 I was diagnosed with a gluten intolerance. And so, you know, I modified my life and and just as time went on, there were still other issues. So I was always trying different things and reaching and see what else is going on. And then the symptoms, you know, the common symptoms with rectal or colon cancer, is bleeding, and so that, well, that actually showed up on a test before that was that, was it just like a routine colonoscopy, or was it in response to, like, hey, something was probably going on. Yes, it was in response to the gut mapping. I’m not really a fan of just the routine checkups because of the invasiveness, yeah, so I skipped my colonoscopy of a few years ago when they recommended it. Is there a hereditary component with that particular type of cancer. Do you know, I think it varies with with the type from what I’ve been exposed to, it seems like it varies that a lot of what I have read, it’s kind of lifestyle for myself. Health, they offered to do a genetics yeah. Yeah. Like, I’ve wondered that so much, because, you know, you’ll see some people that get cancer and they live a totally clean life, yeah, and then you see a lot of people, especially in Yeah, that’s something that we’re both real. We get frustrated with because we both for 15 years of eating, you know, organic and mostly Whole Foods, and eating very clean and taking out all the these things and it’s not getting better. And you’re like, there’s all these people eating crap out there and having coke every day, and they seem to feel fine. What’s going on here? That’s Coca Cola. Oh, yeah. But when I was a cop, all the guys at work, because I was, like, very vocal about, you know, being eating pretty clean and there and but I was get sick all the time. And they gonna eat like that then, because it’s clearly not working for him. And I’m like, No, there’s still value in it. I fully believe in it that’s very relatable, just different details, but very relatable. Yeah. So like, what’s your normal diet consist of? And how long have you been okay? Well, right now I’m kind of on a specific cancer, healing, keeping the tumor contained diet. So it’s basically meat that is, you know, good quality, grass fed that, you know, not conventional things up and get my body so my immune system can kick back in. Is that a function of the cancer, or is that a function of like an autoimmune, like an undiagnosed autoimmune, like, what? What happens with the gut bacteria, gut flora? Yeah, and that’s a, actually an interesting question that I’m asking, because actually looking back, I’ve kept my labs from when all this started back in 2007 looking back, there was a test that Like a leaky gut type thing, yes, like, a little bit, and showed up and then, but I just never really honed in on that, didn’t understand it. And I think the medical, the natural medical community, still learning, yeah, and especially back then, there Oh, okay, so you were diagnosed in May, yes, this year, yes. So this is fairly recent, very recent. Okay, what? Um, can we talk about that? Like, what’s that like getting I mean, was that a call? Is was waking up from the colonoscopy, and he was letting me know. Oh, right now, yeah, they were able to do a biopsy and get enough information to say there is cancer there. And then they sent the cells well, what was your was your feeling like, Alright, I’m ready to fight. I think my feeling was more in the line of, it wasn’t even, this isn’t real. It’s just that, okay, we’re just gonna deal with it. I feel like I was kind of in the middle of we’re gonna fight, because of it that way when I was diagnosed. But you know, the way we’re conditioned to think of it is it’s this evil thing out to get us. And the reality is, I didn’t learn this until after my diagnosis, but way to look at it. And and that is just like that changes everything, at least it did for me that I don’t I actually, when I was talking to the oncologist, you know, he’s trying to understand me and right? Yeah, it’s a it’s a really hard thing to go through. My mom went through it. Did your grandma? My grandma, yeah, and it just like, yeah, it beats the body up, yeah, big time. So, okay, Okay, well, I had a priest scheduled a Women’s Christian conference, okay? And so my first thought was, I’m going with the intent to just surrender to the Lord and be healed. No, that’s great, yeah. sounds like that was like amazing timing, actually, to be scheduled for only the Lord, right, yes, yes. And there are a number of things that the timing in my situation have just been really a blessing and a lot of help for me and my journey. Yeah, okay, so then now you have the decision right of, do you go the western medicine route, or do you go a holistic approach? And you already have a holistic doctor that you’re working with, right? So are you, did you find? Are you finding someone different that specializes in cancer on the holistic side, or are you okay, that’s been a journey, too, about narrowing that down and figuring that out. So, um, the doctor that I’ve been working with, she got me started on IV therapy, uh, she just sent me to um, I and telling the oncologist right from the beginning, I really want to do as much natural first, so just hold on right. And then when I went and to ivnv, they work with a naturopath over in western name, yes, yes. I’m like, I can’t think of it, yeah, and and so it’s kind of like building a team. So, you know, they talk about, in the conventional having your team? Well, my team just looks a little different. And so and Dr Cochran take personal referrals, kicking somebody off the internet with a few reviews is a little scary sometimes, yeah, yeah, especially, I found in the medical world, it’s really, actually hard to get personal referrals for people, and so you are kind of blindly looking and then you have to try it for yourself and And because people have different ideas and thoughts around what actual medical help is, right? You know? So, yeah, because I’m more of a I like to research and know what is going to be happening to get very frustrated with Western medicine, and now I know it is great for a lot of things. I’m sure my life has been saved by it several times, but, yeah, I just have so much distrust, and I think a there. It’s not a it’s not made up, it’s real. So naturally, that’s their first goal. Now, I’ve also been to a naturopath. Kristen sees one right now. That’s fantastic. And they spend, like, a long almost an hour or more, every time, when they go back into your childhood and things that you you know. Prior to my exposure to holistic care, I’d never, even was, ever asked by a medical doctor or even considered you know. And then even maybe that’s the case in a lot of cancer cases. I know the immune system is compromised, and maybe that’s normal, but it was just, I want that to be part of the discussion, right? What’s going on Yeah, if they’re not asking what you eat and how much you’re moving like they’re not doing you a service, right, by any means, right? Because food, I’m a firm believer that food is medicine. I’ve baby are so good. But you know, lately, very recently, I’ve been back on this path because I’m like, Alright, this is not a normal I don’t want to take medication. I know I can fix it with eating. So time, right, you know, to see it change. And that’s, that’s the hard thing, because a lot of people, especially nowadays, like, we want instant gratification, right? And that’s easier to pop a pill I’m, like, completely disgusted with the the food out there right now that people eat and think it’s okay to eat that’s banned in other countries. Our nephew, we were just visiting family, and our nuts. Yeah, yeah. And then they wonder why the ADHD, oh, yeah, yeah, skyrocketing, right, yeah, sure. There’s a correlation here. Well, you’re speaking my language, yeah. That’s, I feel like that’s been one of my biggest frustrations through this is just the whole fact of the food industry and what they produce out at all. It’s like, how, how can humans even survive on what they’re eating? I like, I seriously wonder. Like, when you think about the meat that people are eating, like, yeah, you’re meeting eat, if they’re, you know, or we’re not really surviving Well, well, that’s true. And all the disease that those are eating today that America is actually at a pandemic level of chronic disease. No, I believe it, but that’s a pandemic we refuse to talk about, apparently, because, because you can’t mask up for it, right, right? Or it’s like a lot of people who are really rich would be losing a lot of money if we start talking about it. People are making money on it, yeah, absolutely. And people are making money on the back end, when people, when folks get sick. And now it’s like, oh, here we can prescribe this medication, right? Just, it’s we have chickens and just going back on the food thing. And we, yeah, the best thing ever. But if you compare even our Costco, organic pasture raised eggs versus ours, the color of the yolk is our chickens are happy. That’s yeah, that’s right, and well fed. But it just that shows you, right there, the quality of, like, what you’re eating right there in the yolk, right? Yeah. And I know, like, not all of these things are accessible for everybody, because it does cost, although I’m rethinking this, it costs more upfront, but really, you’re going to save yourself money down, down as much. Yeah, one of my doctors had one of those signs on as well. You’re either going to pay for it now or you’re going to pay for it later with help expenses, right? So we don’t get away from it. talkies, yes, or whatever. We don’t have to cheat out. You can shop the exterior of the store. And, you know, just touch on that more, because I don’t know if everybody knows about that. Oh, yeah, okay. I mean, I know about this, but I don’t know if everybody else does, right? So, yeah, just the whole exterior of the store is, if you really think about any grocery store, that’s where the least processed foods are. You’re going to have your vegetables and your right walk past that dairy temple with those donuts and all the shelves in the middle. Or all the processed foods they are. Even the healthy foods are very processed. Oh, yeah. And there’s a thing called living food and dead food, you know. And so, you know, you want the we’re living beings, and we’re meant to eat food that I the marketing is so ridiculous. Like, you’ll go, you’ll even see, like, you know, keto bars or something. And it’s like, it sounds correct. Was full of crap. Like, yeah, what is this? Yeah. But even on I was thinking about this yesterday because I’m dairy free, and I like this creamer for my coffee that’s coconut and it has mushrooms in it. But I’m like, hey, this has been sitting in a Yeah, that’s the layered superfood. Yeah, yeah. Well, you can go very deep into those thoughts, which I do. And you know, even, like our produce, how long has it been sitting? Like Costco says when it was packed, right, when you’re looking at our lifestyles now, and we, you know, a lot of time both, you know, husband and wife are both working, and we can’t all have a garden and have, right, you know, food growing in our yards, and, it’s a lot. It’s a and it’s a lifestyle change, for sure, and it’s not really what the American life is designed for. Where, you know, we have been, oh, gosh, what did I read that? It only took, what, which is terrifying on a number of levels. One, like the crap they’re putting in our bodies. Two, if that chain gets cut off, which could happen very easily for a million different reasons, everybody’s Yeah, yeah. That’s That was a big factor. I know you guys live on land, right? So you probably have a burden. We do. I’m still kind of in the learning curve of that, so I feel like if something were to happen tomorrow, we’re still in trouble. But, you know, we got chickens. That’s where we’re at. Yeah, we have, well, we have 18 chickens, so we get a lot of eggs. Okay, that’s what we have. You know, we have 17 hands. I love our rooster. She wants to get rid of them. That’s a different story. But then that’ll keep the chickens replenished, right? You need to write, because that’s kind of what I’m figuring is my rooster replenished and gave me 12, yeah, 12 new that’s why I have 18, because I yeah, that’s cool. I think, I think there’s a big push to kind of, at least with a lot of people that we deal with, to get back to some of those skills. Yes, especially here in North Idaho, I feel think a lot of people got scared in the last little pandemic, seeing what could happen and how things can shut down. And, you know, grocery stores were starting to empty a little and so I have Yeah, um, we should probably get back on track. Yes, I love talking about this stuff. Um, okay, so tell us what you’re doing for treatment right now. Okay, I’m let me see my treatment. Um, okay, I brought my list because I always forget that’s okay. Thanks. I’m and, um, I actually have a checklist to remind me of all the things. Um, so I mentioned do mistletoe. Okay? Is that all through IV? Those two things also, the two things are, the mistletoe will actually be sent to me and I will get. To learn how to give myself injections. Okay? And so this has been a this has been a thing. I’ve had needle phobia, which all my can you explain? Or if you know what the two that I the high dose vitamin C and the other one, I’m not even going to try to say what they’re for and how they help. Yes, okay, so I think I can give you more of a general overview, more than the details of each but with both of them. So the vitamin C, and I did not know that this about vitamin C when the vitamin C That’s good is that at high levels, or at all levels? Do you know? I’m not really sure. Seems like at any level, there’d be a little bit, but with the high levels, I’m sure it’s written a lot. But because my healthy cells are intact, my healthy cells then clear out that at a, you know, at a, at a, kind of a, I guess, a higher level of understanding, that will be what the mistletoe will do too, okay, but it did there. I have read more specifics. I’m just not have experience with the high dose vitamin C i Last was the last year, yeah, yeah. Last year I had some weird, funky stomach bug thing that was bothering me for like, three months, and I was just if I recall, I think Eric said it was like, 50,000 times the normal dose of vitamin C. Like a normal high dose of vitamin C. It’s like, yeah, it’s a lot like, it’s not something you can take, yeah, no, yeah. And you have, you have to get blood work done, right, so that, yeah, check, like, your kidneys and different things to make sure your body can handle it. Yeah? And then they’re also, you know, they, in the beginning, they test my blood sugar, because that helps them know how much to give me, once my because once my blood sugar hits, is it 500 I think it was. I Do you feel anything when you’re doing the high? Do you do that twice a week? Yes. Does it feel like anything when you get it done? Okay, the vitamin C, I don’t really feel artemisinin is like, as soon as they put it in, I get this really wonky bitter taste in my mouth, and I do get lightheaded. And so they usually do that first, and so, the root or the herb is just like, ultra bitter. So that would be why I’m hitting, makes sense. Yeah, interesting. It’s funny because, and this is how what’s growing up for me, it’s probably the same for you guys, but, like, there was this stigma around natural healing methods Well, my oncologist basically told me it doesn’t work, yeah, you know. And so I’m like, well, that’s your I thought to myself, that’s your opinion, yeah. Because there’s a lot of. Evidence. There’s a I should add, so IV envy. It’s the letters IV NV. They’re here in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. They’re a Vita or nutrient infusion. Can’t remember how Eric puts it, but Eric Fody, he’s a friend of ours. one of the first ones, I think so if you go back and look, yeah, check out, check out that podcast with him. It was very informative, because we did talk about this. We talked about, yeah, yeah. He’s a wealth of information. Yeah. Love it, yeah. And he’s a Yep, yeah, I can attest to that when it comes in and does its own IVs, yeah. Okay, so what else you got that going on? What else are you working on? So I have that I take a boatload of supplements to support my different systems, because some of the side things going on is my thyroid is kind of out of whack and different things like that. So yeah, actually helped me realize that any amount of detoxing that I was doing was really kind of wimpy and minimal, and so I’m really in the process of really ramping that up. What are you doing for that? in the sauna, yeah. Oh my gosh. I just till I’m just pouring how hot is it? Oh gosh. What does she set it out? Is it a traditional sauna, or is it a red light or infrared traditional? Oh my gosh, you’re a beast, if you can do that. Oh my gosh. I max out of like 20. I don’t even know if I’ve gone 30 minutes before and then I cold plunge after. Oh yeah, well, maybe I’m I’ve always been kind of cold blooded, so warm, yeah, that’s awesome. So things like oil pulling, dry brushing. I’ve been learning about breathing exercises and realizing that I’m not a deep breather, and so just kind of, when I think of it, just do some of those we’re not detoxing. So pastor oil packs doing those right now. I’m taking a little break because I just want to feel normal. I do it at night and basically just put the castor oil over my gut, and you do it, like on a fleece or Yeah, thing, and then laid over whole fleece thing, lay it over, and then I just kind of put, I’m covering over it to protect my sheets and stuff, and sleep with it. I now I have seen where people say, Do it one or two hours, and that’s gets, kind of puts me out for a little bit, just lays me out. And it’s been a while, but probably was before the diagnosis that I’m like, I wonder what would happen if I put this on and something of starting that, and probably a big detox, or for me, is the mental and emotional that’s a huge component, huh? It’s gigantic. And you know, for some of us, more than others, just working on my scary, sure, yeah, when you if you pay attention to your thoughts, this is something you know, I’ve worked on, for sure. I got through phases and I’m just like, every five seconds, it’s like, no. Turn It’s very easy to adopt, like, the victim mentality, like port, why me? Yeah, I did that at a very young age, right? It’s super common. A lot of people do that. And I think it’s important, you know, one of the hardest things, though, because sometimes we all want to be angry if something happens or and this is just like an outside thing, not necessarily inside either. But you know what I mean, I want to have my little temper tantrum, my little baby temper tantrum, and then I’ll get over it, get it out. Yeah, yeah. And then there’s the there’s the people who repress their emotions and anger and so unaware of the need to be angry, like, you know, and so that’s something I’ve also realized, is like, Wait, are speaking my language as a former first responder, that is the culture of just bottling all of the stuff that we see up into tiny little spot inside, right? And a lot of guys live their entire are you working on this by, you know, with yourself? Are you getting therapy, or are you doing anything outside? I’m largely doing it by myself, but I also have some really great people in my life, in our in our church community and and kind of my our our minister and or just a friend that is ministered to me looking for some profession, right, right? That’s good. I’m help. I’ve also been a researcher. I’ve also been a fan of cloud and Townsend of the boundary books. I don’t know if you guys are familiar with them, Christian counselors, and they really address a lot how are you because we just talked about this, how are you tying in western medicine, because you aren’t turning that off, right? That’s a component of what you’re right, right? And in my situation. The tumor is really on the verge of becoming very dangerous, so I’m trying to just tread very carefully between the two. And because, you know, like I said, my if I had was really focused on, okay, if I do this with natural help, maybe I can do the chemo. And they’re like, Yeah, you’re going to need to do the chemo and the radiation. And when I talk to my getting the tumor out so that we can just then focus on healing my body, because my body is still going to be producing cancer cells, right and and so we want to get to the root of that. We want to think that’s a good strategy. What? What What would you do different prior to your diagnosis? Like, if someone were out there and like, what should I do? Okay, so this is something I’ve thought about. And you know, you can not hang on to regrets, but in 2019 I did have a conventional provider, really, really pushing me to do the colonoscopy. I didn’t of that. So not everybody does, but some people do. So, you know, there is still, is that risk that I was concerned about, but you know, that might be a good that would probably be something I would Okay, yeah. I think having that prior knowledge paying attention to your body, and, yeah, yeah. And one of the things I’m learning with the different resources that I’m kind of digging into about cancer on the and just things that lead to cancer, is a lot of these autoimmune things, thinking, Oh, it’s just a digestive thing. Oh, it’s just, you know, this, I would go back and really dig in and get to the root of it, because we’re not meant to have digestive problems. You know, I think it’s so hard, because this is kind of what I’ve been dealing with for a long time now, and I’ve seen so many doctors. I’ve seen natural press, I’ve seen, you know, Western medicine doctors, you’re just depressed and creating your own symptoms. And it’s like, I can guarantee you that’s not the issue. Like, these are real symptoms. These are happening, but that knocked me out for like, two are like? Even, I’ve learned from my husband is talk to everybody about everything, yeah, because that man comes home with all kinds of resources, because he does that. So that’s one thing. But now this is just kind of list them off real quick. Here is malnutrition at the cellular level, and that related to diet and just a whole bunch of things, but acidic, pH, low oxygen in our body, fungus and mold, strong CDA, which is a cancer or chronic health support group, and he is the he studied in Germany, and he has spent his life just on the science of the body and the healing and and This. And I think what that I think Kristen’s done that. I’ve done that. Yeah, for those that don’t know, okay, so um, now I don’t I’ve never done a colon, colonics or colon cleanse before, so I don’t know how his differs from others other than um, when they when, when he cleanses it. He uses um, the different things to help cleanse the colon. What I learned from Dirk is that culturally is a process that has been done for 1000s of years, and we have lost that in our culture. We don’t even talk just because we don’t want to disturb the tumor. And but after my surgery, and I’m healed, I’m going back for more. I’m getting all the junk out of my body, so my body has so how recent was it that you did that with him? I did that in June. Oh, okay, yeah, so you did okay, and, yeah. And so I think any kind of colonics is going to be helpful. I’m just going to little partial to his just because of my experience with him were going on with my organ, organs that other people weren’t actually able to identify. I think I want to try that. Um, I feel like I have, I’ve been exposed to all sorts of nasty chemicals from being a cop for a long time, and, you know, construction work, and right? I I’m very curious to and if I leave that unchecked, like it’s gonna be a problem down the road, true. So thank you for that. And hopefully somebody else out there is listening and like, oh yeah, maybe I should do It’s not that they’re overcharging, no, not at all. These things just cost a lot of money. Like, vitamin C costs a lot of money to do, right? Um, like, Does insurance pay for any of this? that crazy, right? Why? And, well, there’s no money in it for them, yeah, exactly. Um, so, yeah, it is very expensive. It’s, it’s actually just, and you’re right that, that he is not over charging at yeah, I’m curious. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. So, so basically, between the therapy and all the supplements I’m taking right now, it’s about an additional $4,000 a month, yeah, for me to do this. And we do and the thing is that, you know, adds right. And a lot of the testing that’s out there that’s not typical, whether it’s labs or whether it’s some sort of scans, those are all not covered with insurance, either. Yeah, no the other like the gut mapping and then just my food sensitivity test, or any of those things, right or to do, because when I go to conventional medicine, they check the insurance will only allow them to check a certain a small number of things. When I do a blood panel, I get four pages of right? So you guys, and you guys have a GoFundMe. Is that how we do okay, well, we’ll. Put the link to that in the description for the podcast. So, yeah, absolutely. Because, you know, I’m sure people stuff, you can shoot me an email or message on YouTube, and I’ll get you connected. Are you Nancy? Are you open and someone had questions? Oh, absolutely, you might be, yeah, because that you could And I do, I love to share my resources. I love to just, you know, point people towards something that might be helpful for them, or, you know, it might be a stepping stone for something else, thank you again for coming on, like I said, you already inspired me. So now I gotta go find somewhere to get my colon cleansed. Well, come see Dirk on the 11th. He’s gonna be giving a talk at healing strong, okay, carlane, and he’s going to be sharing just what he does and how it helps. And his clinic is in southern Idaho. You said it is okay, yeah. So it’s a little bit of a drive, but it is worth it, yeah? And yeah, it’s, it’s definitely kind of a different, a different deal, from what I understand, and it’d be neat if we could get somebody yeah. Now I’m curious, so I’ll make a video about it. When I go, everyone can see. I don’t know if anyone wants to see that, but there’s parts you can video stuff coming out. I do have pictures of that, and I do find that a lot of people are interested, yeah, in seeing my heavy metals, maybe some gold would come out. That’d be cool. Well. And the neat thing is, Dirk is able to identify it from the colors. He said, There’s a bit of mercury formaldehyde. And I always forget what the other thing was. And the thing about him that was he said that a lot of the toxins get stuck in our bodies and don’t come out. We’re just, we’ve moved on, but the toxins haven’t, yeah, and, well, if you think about that with the intestines, right? It’s just a bunch of, like, small little crevices and wrinkles and, yeah, that’s right, it gets stuck there. It gets stuck in our liver, our gallbladder, our kidneys. It gets stuck stuck in our lymph system. It’s just wherever the toxins can find their way to stay so crazy. Yeah, and there’s, it’s so important to live a healthy lifestyle, because this body is the one we get. You got to make the best of it, right? I feel like, for example, I have not, I have and just put a long sleeve on or put a hat on, I’d be fine. Well, and they say our skin is our largest organ, and so when we’re lathering that up. Between that and the Santa the hand sanitizer, oh, yeah, just, just the chemicals, the, you know, that’s a whole had a clean out of our stuff this last month, and I’ve done it before, but we kind of fell back in because laundry, for me, is the hardest thing to use. Natural like laundry detergent doesn’t smell essential oils, okay, and vinegar added to your soap will wipe those things out. Okay? We do the vinegar. So I’ll try the lemon. Yeah, I usually just put depends on what it is. And hail stinky. And yeah, as far as hail. Much, yeah, and I, we haven’t had an issue when I do that. And then also, if you have a front loader, it’s, it’s a, it’s a mold thing. eating it, peanuts and and things like that. So, and even grains like the wheat. Wheat and corn are two greens that are known for hosting mold, and we eat. In our culture, we eat that every day, And I think that, like, because one thing we struggle with too is, like I said, we’ve done this whole eating really well thing for a while now, but we always fall for a little bit. And it’s always like she What’d you make yesterday? This muffin, zucchini chocolate muffins, I don’t know. They’re dairy free, gluten free and like, they’re made with, like, maple syrup for the sugar, right? Yeah, my him and my son are, like, gobbling down. You can’t make those. Could not stop myself. But, yeah, you know. So there are good options out there. There are good homemade foods, and then it’s just the discipline. Because I think one of my downfalls over the years was okay, so the Paleo started coming into So, oh, I can eat paleo every like paleo baked goods or snacks? Yes, yes, that’s the thing that does mean they’re healthy in that way, right? Yeah, still, sure, right? Or excess calories, or whatever, yeah, yeah, that’s one thing we definitely fall into the trap of. And I see that, like any diet we go on, you know? Oh, well, I could make your heavy whipping cream, know what you call it. It was like a chocolate mousse with heavy whipping cream and stevia and cacao powder. And it’s like, legit, but it’s a huge fat bomb, right? But it right, you can eat a lot of it, and I can’t even imagine how many calories, right? Okay, so I’m really good at this justifying thing. So if it’s raw dairy, grass fed, yeah, good fat for our body, that’s what we’re thinking, right? Education I went through. Yeah, moderation is still moderation. Yeah, still working on that. I relate with that. Cool, well, thank you very much. This has been a good conversation. I want to, I want to check back in in like six months, and we’ll do okay, and see what the progress is, yeah, how all these Planning on having a good report. I think you will thank you. Nancy, all right, thank you guys. This podcast is brought to you by your North Idaho agent. We are a full service Real Estate Team serving all of North Idaho. Our team is comprised of former first responders and veterans, and we learn more about North Idaho. So if you’re looking to move right now or 12 months from now, give us a call, text or email. We don’t just sell homes, we sell the North Idaho experience. Thank you for listening. 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